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    How Girls Can Become Better Scientists: Interview with Kim Ennico, NASA Scientist

    “I used to have a lot of overdue fines at the library,” said Dr Kim Ennico, NASA scientist and astrophysicist who now plays with lots of cool space toys. “I was asking lots of questions and no one would answer so I retreated to books and read about everything. I wanted to learn how things worked and loved reading detective mystery stories.” Now SOFIA Project Scientist at NASA Ames Center in California, Kim is a true role model for girls and lives by her passion: to authentically communicate with others to promote a better and lasting understanding of the beauty and benefits of space science and space exploration to our world.

    Kim Ennico

    I interviewed Kim Ennico in 2009 for an article on space museums and today, her words resonate even more then they did back then. Our whole discussion on how girls have to learn a healthy curiosity and skepticism to move forward as scientists was a revelation. As my girls grew from toddlers to preschoolers and preschoolers to school kids and teenagers, I recycled many of her ideas and today I’ve come to appreciate their full meaning. Here’s my take on how you can encourage girls to be better scientists and challenge gender stereotypes.

    Making Science Fun

    To get girls interested in science, Dr Ennico gave me advice based on her educational work with the Santa Clara school district. She used to teach science to girl scouts using girl-friendly examples such as an infrared beauty salon or a spectometer as a rainbow catcher.

    Kim Ennico

    Some of her ideas were re-inforced when I heard educator and psychologist JoAnn Deak talk about her book “Your Fantastic Elastic Brain: Stretch It, Shape It” in 2011. She talked about how girl brains and boy brains differ and discussed methods to help strengthen and improve areas of kids brains. I left with two copies of her book, have given it many times since, and apply her methods dutifully. I also use advice I heard at conferences on children’s books when people talked about math books for kids. last but not least, I’ve discussed this topic at length with friends and my dad who is a soil scientist.

    Do’s and Don’ts to Raise Better Scientists – Especially If You Have Daughters

    I would now like to share what I’ve learned because these tips really changed the way I interact with my girls on a daily basis. Note that this is not the Holy Gospel but a set of guidelines, often common sense, that works for my family.

    1. Don’t Give The Answer Away Right Now

    To promote self-learning, parents should encourage their kids to try and figure out the answer to any question rather than give the answer right away. In JoAnn Deak’s words, “when a student raises his or her hand in class, all the other kids stop thinking.” It’s true, we’ve all experienced that. When I was a kid, even if the kid who replied was wrong, I had stopped using my brain the second I saw a hand up in the air. By prolonging the thinking process, kids can stretch and strengthen their brains like body muscles.

    Kim Ennico

    As a mother eager to educate my girls, sometimes it’s hard to resist giving out the answer. Kids don’t think the way we do, sometimes they don’t get the answer right or they get distracted. Chill out, relax. As much as I can, I encourage them to think and figure out their own answer. Since we have a long commute to school, here’s an example taken from our car conversations.

    When they ask me “Maman, are there parallel universes with different time layers?” or “Maman, why do volcanoes have to erupt?”, I respond,”Well, what do you think?”. If they need hints to steer in the right direction, I ask them questions that I know they can answer. “What do you know about the geology of rocks?” “What do we know about our universe?” “What’s at the center of the earth?” “What happens to rock at extremely high temperatures?” “What happens if I time travel?” and so forth, so they can move forward.  I only want to be a tool in their reasoning process.

    2. Do Teach Girls to Question Everything

    I know I’m going to get in trouble for writing this. Yes, I am but that’s OK. Girls should never ever ever accept an “Because I say so” to any question, however complex or embarrassing. There are age-appropriate ways to talk about everything from the our digestive system to death, reproduction or the big bang theory. Kids have brains, they can process much more than we give them credit for. “Because I told you so” is not scientific. It’s not backed by any hard evidence. It’s just highly subjective and therefore potentially faulty. Kim Ennico called that “healthy skepticism” and I completely agree.

    Whenever your daughter asks “Mom, Dad, why is ….?”, you just can’t answer “Because God made it” or “Because that’s the way it is.” That’s not helping, it’s a dead end.

    Kim Ennico

    If you don’t know the answer, be honest and offer to look up the answer later at home or at the library. Hey, nobody needs to know the answer to everything. I don’t know the first thing about submarines but I’m willing to take my girls on a tour of the USS Pompanito and get The First Book of Submarines at the library. That’s a start.

    One last item, girl-specific. According to Kim Ennico “in mixed gender classes, it’s boys who ask more questions. Girls have to learn there’s nothing wrong about being curious.” What matters is that girls learn to not take everything for face value. If they do, it’s the end of her critical thinking and critical thinking is the key to learning.

    3. Do Foster Persistence and Patience

    Being obsessive pays off. In Kim Ennico’s words, “I kept my notes in order and I was stubborn.” As a little girl she was very shy yet she observed a caterpillar, wondered about it and went to the library to learn about it. Her approach was organized and she was never bored. I know that patience is a hard skill to learn for kids, especially nowadays when instant gratification is available at the tip of Amazon Prime or any Google search. My girls don’t like to wait but I teach them patience by giving them simple deadlines. “This weekend we are going on a long hike. After the hike, you will be able to watch The Martian.”  I could tell them to watch the movie now if I wanted to, we can stream it and they’ve done their homework. However, I prefer to delay the reward so they learn that patience pays off.

    4. Teach That Failure Can Lead to Good Results

    Kids, it’s OK to fail.

    It’s actually frequent and normal. If you never fail, it means you never tried. The history of science is full of examples of accidental discoveries. Play-Doh was accidentally invented in 1955 by Joseph and Noah McVicker while trying to make a wallpaper cleaner. Saccharin, the sweetener in the pink packet, was discovered because chemist Constantin Fahlberg didn’t wash his hands after a day at the office. Radioactivity was discovered by accident in 1896 when Becquerel, a scientist fascinated by natural fluorescence and the X-ray, left his equipment wrapped up together in a drawer and realized that the uranium rock he had left in the drawer had imprinted itself on a photographic plate without being exposed to sunlight first.

    When my girls discover – by accident – that they can mix baking soda and vinegar to make volcanoes in the kitchen, I’ll probably curse this theory and teach them the magic of the floor mop.

    The Bottom Line

    Girls can be great scientists if they are interested enough to pursue their passion. Go girls!

    4 thoughts on “How Girls Can Become Better Scientists: Interview with Kim Ennico, NASA Scientist

    1. Dear Laure Latham, I just stumbled upon your article. Great to see what you have been up to and how you & your daughters (as you “all” grow) are embracing healthy skepticism and remaining curious about the world around you. Curiosity is such a wonderful gift, and it is so innately human. You are doing such a marvelous job at bringing topics down to earth. I thank you personally for your kind comments. I had no idea my words stuck & had relevance, and it makes me feel so wonderful to know. -Kim Ennico (on detail in Boulder, CO til 2014, miss the bay area, out here on assignment for NASA, working the Pluto Fly By Mission, which is based here).

      1. @Kim, it’s so nice to hear from you and I want to thank you again for your insights on becoming a scientist. I love what you do and you are an inspiration! I did send this piece to the NASA media office hoping they’d forward it to you but I think you beat them to it. Quite the detective! Hope Boulder is treating you well, they are lucky to have you. How exciting, the Pluto Fly By Mission. I’ll tell my girls, they’ll be thrilled. Thanks for the message! Laure

    2. Some of us got into science IN SPITE OF our upbringing. For me, the original Star Trek episodes were not just an escape. I lived in the future my whole life (sometimes I still do) – it’s finally catching up with me. :)

      1. @Pam, I love what you say and that you got into into science despite your upbringing. How cool is that? I’d have to credit Star Wars and my brothers’ legos for getting me interested in anything futuristic. How are you involved in science?

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